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interesting op-ed by warren buffett, who points out that early in his career in the 1950's and 1960's when he was making a lot of money, the tax rate was many times higher than it is today. he is calling on rich americans to pay up. >> is warren buffett and out liar in this respect, or will he be able to drag with him -- is warren buffett on the outside in this respect, or will he be able to drive with him others? >> we have seen republican lawmakers start to soften. the key is whether republican donors start to soften, too. we have seen how the rich have a particular ability to lobby for their best interests, and that has been the story in america for the past three decades. this election with a bit of a referendum on that balance of power. we will see if the president has that muscle to push that through. interesting that you mentioned mark carney. he is a hero, in my book. as one of the governors of the bank of canada, he thought -- fought the powers there. >> sure the discussion that america is having now focus on this issue of inequality that you have written about in your book? and will
. melissa: here is what is "money" tonight. warren buffett's plans tax hike critics claiming that higher rates would not put a freeze on investing. is the oracle of omaha having of false prophecy? 220 men join us with the reaction. egyptian president makes a power grab that could make a feral blush. violent protests break out. will they bring mideast turmoil to new heights? one of the reasons top experts. getting a pink slip for not getting a flu shot. one employer fires all workers refusing to get the flu vaccine. is it legal? could more businesses follow suit? if even when they say it's not, it's always about "money." ♪ melissa: first, let's take a look at the day's market headlines. fiscal cliff years made a comeback and strong retail sales are not enough to offset the concern. the dow closed down 42 points. facebook shares some other best in four months. two formerly bearish analysts upgrade their outlook citing increasing revenue from mobile ads. and as our own charlie gasparino first reported, mary schapiro stepping down as chairman of the sec. officially leave office on december
. warren buffett takes on grover norquist. who is right? former cbo director douglas cosecant joins us next. ♪ lou: well, we are going to be assessing what is happening with the fiscal cliff, negotiations, talks tomorrow waste of time between the principal so-called in washington d.c. talking with former congressional budget office director douglas hopes he can hear in moments. first the "moneyline". lori ruined the day on wall street. concerns about the deep discounts being offered by retailers on black friday. worries about the fiscal cliff, greece of combining for a market that pretty much went nowhere today. the dow jones industrials down 42. as into down treatment nasdaq rose ten. the sixth day in a row in which the nasdaq has gained. light trading on the big board. concerns about increases in taxes on dividends for the high-yield dividend stocks of late. today at&t and verizon down, both with dividend yields of just about 5%. most retailers lower on the day despite good news on the holiday shopping weekend. target and walmart among the worst -- losers. investors celebrating what som
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or something. >> eliot: warren buffett continued to be the pragmatic voice of the majority. >> i think there is a general feeling among the american public certainly and even among many in congress that the rich like me have been getting away with low tax rates and it is time to make the tax rates more progressive. >> eliot: for more on the fiscal cliff negotiations, i'm joined by congressman peter welch, democrat from vermont. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> eliot: what should the deal look like? all of the chatter, smoke and mirrors, what is the deal you would like to see? >> well, first of all, i do believe the middle class has a stake and a good, solid balanced, deficit reduction plan. the plan should be what the president campaigned on, namely balance. that means we've got to have a substantial contribution from revenues. the revenues have to come from the folks who have been making good money during the recession. that's folks over $250,000 or some number close to. that the pentagon's got to make a
, raising the marginal tax rate on the top end is spur purely a symbolic t. and the reason warren buffett is able to say, well, my secretary is taxed at a higher rate than i am is not because of that rate, it's because of the capital gains rate at 15%. >> we need to ask him about that, too. and i'm sure he would agree capital gains rates, which were about 28% under bill clinton when we had the roaring '90s, are at 15% right now. i've got to say, this is one of those areas where, when i was in congress, i wanted the capital gains rate to go down, thought it was too high at 28%. it's at 15% now. if you want to look at income disparity, you know, in part, the 15% capital gains tax rate and carried interest allows the super wealthy to get by paying a hell of a lot less than middle-class americans. >> if you're for fairness, that's where the fairness is. that's why the rich don't pay as much tax as the others. the marginal tax rate is marginal. if you raise it a couple of percentage points, it doesn't change much. if you raise that capital gains rate, that's where the big money is made. >> he
tax, 15%, gift taxes, 15%, let's make sure that warren buffett finally starts paying at least as much as his secretary, in the percentage, and, what has been proposed, here, by the president, will not have warren buffett paying the same as his secretary, in percentage. let's have a flat tax, lou. let's take the president at his word. if you make more you will pay more and this is the only way that that is going to happen. >> lou: you know, i believe the speaker boehner, perhaps the president himself may have been talking to you, talking to steve forbes and others who talked about the possibility of reforming the entire tax code. that could -- >> this is a great time. you know, the kind of time... and, not only that, let's don't forget the last time that the senate had a budget, it was when harry reid worked with his friend, speaker pelosi and nobody in the 2008 budget complained that it wasn't spending enough money. let's go back to 2008. $2.5 trillion, and cuts off a trillion in spending, right there. >> lou: there are all sorts of ways to get there, as you suggest here tonight, and,
, warren buffett, the op-ed in the "new york times" and we all know in the past he said he personally would welcome a tax hike. >> right. >> here is a snippet from this morning. forget about the rich and ultra rich going on strike and stuffing their ample funds under their mattress if gas, capital gains rates, and ordinary income rates are increased, the ultra rich including me will forever pursue investment opportunities. where is the room for the gop to continue to argue against taxing the rich at a higher rate. >> there really isn't for a whole host of reasons not the least of which is politically speaking it doesn't make sense. the study you talked about at the beginning, here is what a lot of people don't realize. for many americans the way they do christmas, they take out a loan. that's how they pay for christmas presents hoping the tax return that they get back, the money they get back from the taxes will be able to pay off that loan. that's how a lot of americans are living their lives. i think the republicans have got to recognize they can no longer not party that is going to defen
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to get used to that. warren buffett talking about going over. probably going to happen in january. i feel like we're going to go over. you can meet with all of the ceos you want to. doesn't really matter. 200,000 people in a room. doesn't really matter. norquist saying don't have a deal. have to raise taxes. democrats don't seem to favor lowered defense budget and favor higher taxes for the rich and so we're done. i think we're done. >> after durbin speoke yesterda, if you're going to get a blueprint, he doesn't want entitlements be part of it for next year. >> it's the 1,000-point solution. maybe that will change their mind. durbin said no. norquist is saying no tax increase. what else is there? am i missing something? what am i missing? blankfe >> stallen made a lot of sense. mass murderer about you doesn't mean he didn't make sense. >> blankfein, kent, mayer, roberts of comcast. is there anything these guys can say to change their tune? to get people -- >> we're just past thanksgiving. let's give it a little time. things can change. we've seen lots of back and forth. everybody is estab
. but if you're a long-term investor -- remember, warren buffett is very bullish on u.s. stocks because he believes in company. this could be a buying opportunity because things have drop add lot. >> well, stephanie, speaking of warren buffett hr, he had an op, sort of laying the idea that the've wealthy would throw a hissy fit, would not invest if they were to increase a couple of points. he wrote, so let's forget about the rich and ultra rich going on strike and stuffing their ample funds under their mattresses if, gasp, capital gaines rates and yord nan income rates are increased. the ultra rich, including me, will forever pursue investment opportunities. why is there such a hang-up even to the point that republicans have signals willingness to find revenue in other places as lodge as they do not actually increase the rates? >> i think the hang-up is broader than that. and what mr. buffet is asking for simplicity. as far as investors go, they simply want things to be resolved because again unless there's clarity in the future, you're just not going to see much happening. as i mentioned
with the president over the weekend. the white house's pr campaign is being buoyed along by warren buffett who is voicing support for tax hikes for americans just like him. >> i think it would have a great effect in terms of the morale of the middle class who have seen themselves paying high payroll taxes, income taxes and then watched guys like me end up paying a rate that's below that, you know, paid by the people in my office. >> joining me now is wisconsin's republican senator ron johnson. senator, it's great to have you with us this morning. and as we talk about what's taking place in washington, d.c. right now, the million dollar question is all concerns around senators lindsey graham, saxby chambliss, congressman peter king among other republicans who said they'd be willing to break away from grover norquist's anti-tax pledge. will you say if you're willing to break that pledge in order to save the country from the fiscal cliff. >> hello, thomas. and first of all, i signed that pledge two years ago, and the reason i signed it is because i think increasing tax rates, increasing the amoun
think of warren buffett's proposal for a minimum income tax on high earners for people who are now paying so much less, paying what mitt romney paid, paying what warren buffett pays, 14 or 16%, because of capital gains and other investments, what about a minimum tax that would require them to pay 35%? >> the president has supported the buffet principle for a long time and his state of the union address last year, he supported buffet rule which would set a minimum tax for those who are the most wealthy. but we have a set of problems we need to address. and this requires a comprehensive solution and most importantly, we need to collect additional revenue from the most fortunate which includes raising tax rates to where they were during the clinton years. >> similarly, what about revisiting simpson-bowles? a lot of people are talking about the framework, a lot of work has been done, are there means testing, further means testing of medicare, for instance, or other kinds of delayed medicare enactment, you know, sliding the age, for instance, kicks in other ways to try to down the road
't resolved before january. meanwhile, in "the new york times," warren buffett takes a dig at norquist and others while making his case for a minimum tax on the wealthy. the oracle of omaha writes, "let's forget about the rich and the ultrarich going on strike and stuffing their ample funds under their mattresses if -- gasp -- capital gains rates and ordinary income rates are increased." >>> after weeks of criticism over u.n. ambassador susan rice, senator john mccain who vowed to block her potential nomination as secretary of state appears to be backing off that threat. >> she could conceivably get your vote for secretary of state? >> i think she deserves the ability and the opportunity to explain herself and her position, just as she said. >>> actor ben affleck has long been involved in efforts to help the victims of war-torn eastern congo. on sunday he talked about his call for the u.s. to take a more active role. >> i think our actions in foreign policy, and maybe i'm naive, represent our values and represent who we are. and if any american were to go to that country and stand and
's a shift. warren buffett says raise tax rates on incomes over a half million dollars, that's a shift. but the president and democrats are not moving and they still say raise tax rates on the rich. on-line shopping, a very big winner and very big for retailers. 13% better than last year overall. today, on-line sales may run close to 2 billion dollars. will it last through the holidays? we've got another north african economy in absolute chaos. egypt torn by rioting after morsi takes dictatorial powers. they really need our money now. watch out, everybody, "varney & company" is about to begin. get married, have a couple of kids, [ children laughing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy life together where they almost never fight about money. [ dog barks ] because right after they get married, they'll find some retirement peopl who are paid on sary, not commission. they'll get straightforward guidance and be able to focus on other things, like each other, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. >> as we said, call it a cave. call it a shift. call
, i think warren buffett also suggested to raise it to $500,000, not $250,000. so that could be more palatable, too, to upper middle class people. they'll get a break up to $500,000. but it's very hard once you hit the million-dollar bracket to say, oh, no, no, we're going fro text those people. clearly these republicans are seeing the same poll numbers that obama is seeing, that this is not where the american people are right now. >> it's interesting you bring up the poll numbers. keith, let me bring you in on these. we know a exit poll combines. our first read team points out a republican pollster david winston says 61% say the better way to raise revenue is closing loopholes and reforming the tax code and they're seeing some republicans look at that particular poll over the one we've ma jorlly talked about, which is the exit polling. >> i wonder if these are the same republican pollsters who said romney is going to win in a landslide. >> touche, touche. >> you have to take this with grain of salt. the reality is the american people knew what barack obama was running for when he wa
,000? that is a negotiating point. if eric cantor said don't talk to me about raising rates that would be wrong. warren buffett says $500,000 should be the threshold. why is the president saying it's $250,000 or i am not signing it? >> kimberly: it's campaign promises. that is his political ideolog ideology. instead of what is best for the country. >> eric: put you on the spot -- >> kimberly: the math shows it won't make a difference. why is he doing it in any way? because he said he would. not good enough reason. obligation to the country. >> bob: he said he wouldn't allow tax cuts to go for people making that money. i think that between that and entitlement reform you will get a deal. >> eric: let me ask this question. i call grover norquist, what is going on here? he said read between the lin lines. only when democrats put up their end of the bargain they would negotiate. if they do, they can change the rate and close a loophole and they will violate a no norquist pledge. should they? violate the pledge they won on and run on and may change the tune. >> dana: i never liked pledges about anything. i
in the bank. he doesn't need a union for rich people. if he feels that way and warren buffett and these guys feel that way get your checkbook and show us what occurs. stuart: to fire about patriotic millionaires, a lot of people fired about the facebook page. we told you we were going into triple digits. the dow is up 100 points and there is light volume today. big money people can move the market and apparently, let's go to robert gray. robert: the tech outpacing the broader market. tech stocks in the s&p down leading the charge and it is down below $9 with a disappointing earnings just a week ago and certainly ramping into the black holiday and shopping for electronic gadgets. michael dell said the windows 8 launch last month, giving consumers a real reason to upgrade in several years. the touch screen technology, convertible and hybrid, basically tablets', laptops at the same time to have a built in keyboard, this new technology is a new wow factor for the holidays. stock we should remind you down 35% year to date but it is up 7% this week alone. dave: back to neutral. thank you very much
the people who initially are going to get, teresa heinz kerry, warren buffett, people who have massive amounts of money. they're hit the hardest, right? >> absolutely. the proposal i wrote had an exemption for households up to $500,000 in wealth that, is exempting 80% of american households right there. >> how did you draw that line? i can imagine there is all kinds of cheating that is going to happen around that line. or even on the bentley. people are going to say it has dents and not worth very much money. how do you avoid that? >> we have a lot of cheating right now with income tax. so we might to have a higher exemption. we might to have to have slightly higher rates. i think overall fighting wealth inequality is so important. it is really wealth, not income that, affects your access to opportunity and our wealth inequality is so extreme that it's hurting our living standards in the long run. >> and 500,000, that was an arbitrary number. why did you pick that? >> well, like i said, it already exempts about 80% of american households. if you want to make a dent in inequality, you h
kerry, warren buffett, that's who will be hit the hardest? >> absolutely. the proposal had an exemption of proposals with up to $500,000 in wealth. that exempts most households right there. >> how did you draw that line? even on the bentley, people will say it has dents and it's not worst much. how do you have that? >> we have a lot of cheating with income tax and with a wealth tax, i'm sure people would try to cheat on that as well. we might have to have high slightly higher rates. but fighting wealth in equality is so important, bought that's what affect your opportunity and our wealth inequality is hurting were living standard in the long run. >> 500,000, why did you pick that? anything under that, you won't get taxed, above it, you are. >> it already exempts about 80% american households. if you want to make a debt in inequality, you have to have a progressive tax system, and this is a way to do it. >> let us know what you think. trying to be proactive here and help solve the problem. help those guys in washington now. >>> israel why and gaza are claiming the cease-fire as a victory
very much. >>> al sharpton, here is the issue. warren buffett saying this week to the president effectively, my words, not his, don't give in here. don't give in on taxes. threaten to go over the fiscal cliff. it's not going to kill the economy any worse. how does the president work his will here? how does he get to the kind of compromise that david cody wants and other ceos, while still saying i've won this election and i need to drive things in the direction i think is best? >> i think he's got to govern by the commitments made during the campaign. and i think he will. this is about fairness. why do we need to deal with the tax on the rich first? because we must assure americans we are dealing with fairness. we keep talking about shared sacrifice. there was not shared wealth and shared prosperity. so you're asking people that didn't enjoy the good times to share in paying for the tab that they never enjoyed. so i think that when we first deal with the taxes, as you raised in your first point, and then go from there talking about how we deal with entitlements and all, you have
at the end of the year. and in today's "new york times" warren buffett calls for a, quote, minimum tax for the wealthy writing let's not forget about the rich and ultra rich going on strike. capital gains rates and ordinary income rates are increased. the ultra rich, including me, will forever pursue investment opportunities. buffett calls for the cutoff point to increase from $250,000 to $500,000, by the way. defensem democrats are facing pressure from interest groups who oppose changes to medicare and social security like this one from the aarp. >> some politicians think medicare and social security are just numbers in a budget. well, we worked hard for those benefits. we earned them. and if washington tries to cram decisions about the future of these programs into a last-minute budget teal, we'll all pay the price. >> and there's your potential pressure from the left. gop negotiators have put adjusting the measure of inflation which determines social security benefits back on the table, something the president had agreed to in 2011. majority leader harry reid has ruled that out this
from the white house. it comes on the same day warren buffett writing in the "new york times" in an op-ed saying rich is $500,000 a year, and let's tax them. let's have a 30% minimum tax for the income above $1 million of rich people. look what he said here. the "forbes" 400, wealthiest individuals in america hit a new group record. $1.7 trillion, more than five times the $300 billion total in 1992. he says you know, my gang has done pretty well. so leave the middle class alone. and so these two kind of the 1-2 punch from the white house perspective, at least, today on what we should be doing in debt talks. >> buffett is interesting. he said he doesn't think it will be that big a deal if we go off the cliff. >> he says don't worry about raising taxes on investments and income from investments. he said, i will do a good deal, because it's a good deal. not because my taxes are going to be a certain rate. so he has pounded this -- beat this drum for some time. but this is the white house, the latest from the white house on the fiscal cliff and how it would hurt the middle class. >> christ
and it says "four reasons why warren buffett" the ally of the white house on this "is wrong on tax hikes." >> but the interesting something that now any time anyone types up on twitter "my2k" which was a white house-created hashtag, you get the heritage foundation. >> among others. >> brown: among others. >> you would think that -- at the top. you would think that the obama administration would have bought their own tweet. >> brown: howie, what is the administration asking its supporters to do through this tash tag? i mean, is it just to get the word out or is there something more explicit? >> well, it's all about mobilizing public opinion which is easier to do when n a campaign when off clear choice-- barack obama or mitt romney. with the romney campaign having evaporated the democrats have an advantage on this. so obama for america, the digital group that was created to help get president obama elected to a second term has sent out an e-mail with graphics to its supporters on millions of people oner, the mail list urging them to get involved on the president's proposals and to share so
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house economists. billionaire warren buffett has an opinion article in today's "new york times" calling for higher taxes on the ultrarich and mocking the idea that investors will pull back if capital gains increase. the dow is down 68. the nasdaq is down 3. s&p is down 6. >>> black friday spending jumped more than 12% from last year. the national retail federation says shoppers -- made 247 million visits to stores and websites and spent an average of $423. but those numbers include shopping that actually started on thanksgiving. another retail tracking company says sales on friday alone actually dropped almost 2% because many retailers were opened a least part of the day on thanksgiving. >>> individual stores could start releasing black friday numbers before the end of the week. early reports show many shoppers liked spending their holidays in stores. that could give toys 'r' us, target and walmart stocks a boost. they are being named by retail analysts as the most shopper- friendly stores and websites during the shopping period. analysts also expect to see active trading on amazon toda
already shrunk by nearly a fifth? >>> and warren buffett on tv this morning saying he wouldn't sell a single share of stock even if he was guaranteed the u.s. goes off the fiscal cliff. just wait until you hear who he thinks should be the treasury secretary. >> we'll begin of course with the deal of the day. conagra foods has agreed to acquire ralcorp for $5 billion. $90 a share in cash. 28% premium to the closing price on monday. kayla tausche reported on potential for a deal between the two companies back in 2011. it creates the largest private label food company in north america. this is a big deal. >> yes, it is. it's big in size in terms of what we've seen in this market. look how excited he is. and they finally got it done. it's been one as you pointed out that was around in 2011. they couldn't get it done. that is conagra. they walked away. ralcorp stock price fell dramatically. they split the post cereal division from ralcorp. the two trade separately. so you did have a company here that perhaps became a little more -- i wouldn't say vulnerable. not as if they were committed
. >> only story you care about. >> of course. might be some mheisman voters. >> warren buffett. excellent, powerful piece "new york times" in the about taxes on the rich. he says the rich have been just beating the middle class in the economy over the past three decades. he has some great statistics. he also says this notion that rich people like him will stop working hard and investing if taxes go up is crazy. he says, i made a lot of money in the '50s, in the '60s when taxes were higher. it's time for us to pay up. a very powerful piece. >> he starts off that piece "new york times" in the saying an investor you had miadmire comesd says i've got this great deal. i'm in. you should be, too. would you reply it all depends on the tax rate on the gains i'm going to make. if the taxes are tie hioo high goes on to slap grover norquist. >> that's not fair. >> in this piece he actually says he's in favor of higher taxes for the rich. but he actually disagrees with the president at what level shah should kick in. he thinks it should be half a million. very interestingly, he says at the very, very
on the op-ed pages. this one by warren buffett. whether he would give more of his tax dollars if given the opportunity. he says let's forget about the rich and alternate going on strike and stuffing their money under the mattress. we will look at some other opinions. a republican from tennessee, bob corker, a member of the senate banking committee. he writes in the washington post -- fred in lancaster, south carolina, good morning. caller: good morning. the one caller named interior was pretty close to being right. -- named jerry. it wants to cut taxes, how about we bring some of the foreign aid home to pay down some deficits? how about that? we are talking about obamacare. why not put a cap on a $100 aspirin at a hospital and instead say it's $10? i think that's more than enough. host: senator mike lee as a commentary in the washington times -- that is from the "washington times. mike lee is also a member of the joint economic committee. tony is our next caller in las vegas, nevada. caller: hi. on the fiscal cliff, this has been the unspoken agenda of the democratic party for a long t
times" investor warren buffett add slow indicates a minimum tax on what he calls the ultra rich. he says it will not wreck the economy. "the ultrarich, including me, will forever pursue investment opportunities." >> republican senator john mccain says that he is open to changing his mind on susan rice. now, if she's nominated to become the next swuf state, mccain, he now says he has, of course, been critical of her. she's the current u.s. ambassador to the u.n. she is under fire from republicans for initially saying that it was protesters, not terrorists, who launch the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya. rice says she went with the information that the intelligence community gave her at the time. mccain now says he is not going to block her nomination. he is going to give her a chance to explain. here's how he explains that. >> i give everyone the benefit of explaining their position and the action that is they took. you'll be glad to have the opportunity to discuss these issues with her. >> all right. i want to bring in our foreign affairs correspondent jill dougher
, taxes, things that distort economic activity. >> warren buffett wrote an interesting op-ed. he is a supporter of the president but said he does not favor raising rates on people making more than $250,000 but said he would support it for people making $500,000. is there an income level where you support or at least not oppose vehemently the idea of racing rates? >> again, you know, i don't think that's a constructive direction to go in. we -- you know, we could just keep adding ever more brackets, and ever more burdens on people who are productive or have a couple of good years in their business. i think all of that discourages economic growth and discourages risk taking and entrepreneurship. so i'm in favor of moving in the direction of a flatter tax system. of fewer brackets, lower rates, simplicity where we get rid of all the distortions that happen in the tax code, rather than speculating about how many different new brackets we should create. >> i want to get to benghazi. on taxes you talk about closing loopholes and reducing destructions. grover norquist says that would vi
cannot caved in it. they want a mandate for increased taxes. yesterday, the billionaire investor warren buffett writing in the new york times says he thinks the country would do just fine if we do -- if we go over the fiscal cliff. on our line for independents, should we go of the fiscal cliff? caller: yes, i think we should. although people who want a budget reduction, it would save the country 4 trillion dollars. i was amazed at how fast the democrats adopted mitt romney's -- for these home deductions. these people want to go around saying obama, obama wally is cutting your social security and medicare in your home deductions are really happy. we are not in this for nothing. nobody cares about us because we want to be so proud of president obama. and let him defund social security. the democrats have no intention of ending the debt ceiling now, because they want to give away more democratic priorities. we hostages. when the republicans have not given anything yet, that is what you get here you get your priorities cut. because you did not say a word. so sit back in your house and yelle
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